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Dreaming a dream...

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With the tank close to empty (still have to get out all of the sand and the last of the water, including in the overflows), I'm thinking about what to do next.

Wes is pushing for a huge upgrade. LOL It's always easier to get someone else to upgrade, after all. A bigger tank could be nice, but I know what the workload was for the 280g and have no reason to think it would be a minor adjustment for a bigger one. The truth of the matter is, larger tanks cost more every time. I may be able to go larger and use the lights I have now, and not have to add another MH pendant. POSSIBLY. Chemically, it takes more product to fix a problem, and can be very annoying. And water changes are bigger and/or more frequent.

While I was at the LFS today talking about my options, we also discussed the idea of pulling out my wooden platform and replacing it with a steel stand that is powder coated. It would be rock solid and there would be no reason to doubt its strength. (I'm honestly amazed at how little lumber tank stands are made out of, and how aquarium suppliers require us to buy them to maintain a warranty on the tank.) With the steel stand, I'd have fresh options:
  • Go bigger - front to back.
  • Wood panels along the front of the tank & side to access the sump and see in the refugium.

Some tank thoughts:

Current tank has been 72 x 30 x 30, replacement could be the same. Or it could be 72 x 36 x 30. Or 72 x 36 x 24 (on a taller stand). Or 84 x 36 x 24. Or 96 x 36 x 24. I'm liking the idea of more front to back (depth) because of the look of the tank. The 30" tall tank was always a pain when trying to reach stuff, and that never got any easier over time. A shallower tank would be nice, but with less water height it still is tough to get top down pictures (the focal distance of my macro lens is a minimum of 8"). At first, it'll be fine, but when the corals grow taller as they did in this tank, it was nearly impossible to get any more images.

To get a longer tank in the room, and a wider one, structural changes would be needed. Wiring would have to be moved. Plumbing would have to be addressed. Remember, my water heater was originally where the 280g has been, and those pipes are still in slab in that spot. With a steel stand, I could run copper pipes low to the ground and over to the garage and remove the CPVC pipes that have done the job for the past six years. An electrician would have to move some circuits that have been fine until now, because the bigger tank would take away some wall and where those outlets exist.

The bigger tank will likely use thicker glass. Thicker glass may mean I can't use the Vortech pumps, if it exceeds 3/4". I love using those pumps, so I don't want to find myself stuck with something else that I have look at. The return pump is a Dart pump. For a bigger tank, I still think the Dart would be fine as I don't rely on it for any flow. The Marineland 300g has an overflow at one end, and I'm liking that look. However, with a bigger tank, I don't know if that will still be possible or if the tank would require overflows at each end just to keep the surface skimmed. Of course, I could fabricate a coast to coast overflow to pour into the included overflow, but that box would spoil the clean background I prefer.

The taller stand would allow for my sump to be underneath including the Euroreef skimmer. That would be nice, letting me have more tank depth to work with at last. I feel like I'll probably have to make a new sump at some point just to keep everything new, like a matched set.

Using the same tank, none of this stuff matters. Still, I still could have a steel stand fabricated since I wouldn't have to spend cash on the new aquarium. If I get the tank fixed, I could sell it to help defray the cost of the new tank if I go that route. I can't make up my mind yet. Of course, without any prices yet, I can just dream...

What do y'all suggest?

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  1. Hat39406's Avatar
    I've been thinking the same thing SnakeByt!
  2. melev's Avatar
    Nothing specific, but I did draw up some plans for a dream tank. Now to see if it is possible or not. It would involve moving electrical, plumbing, a doorway, and pouring a little more concrete. Plus some cabinetry. (You may not know the story behind my woodwork, but it took a long time for me to git-er-dun last time. hehe)
  3. NightShade's Avatar
    Well, I used to pave roads at one point in time. . . a little over 3 miles worth of concrete in one summer. I am not a certified electrician but have ran enough electrical to know what to do and if you know what to do you can generally pay an electrician to come check and sign off on it so that it's all legal. Doorway. . . who needs a doorway we can just take it out and let you go outside to get into the garage. And I am not a master cabinet maker but I can definitely make straight cuts on a table saw and get things the right size. So lets see your plans. . . what we gonna do, when do we get to start, how big of a tank, lets see some representations of it soon. I am chompin at the bit to get down there and get to work if you can't already tell. BTW did I mention that I run a mean sledge hammer too. . . I can do all the demo in about 15 mins, ( maybe longer don't know how much has to be done or if you want to have a kitchen left too, LOL.)

    We CAN rebuild it, we CAN make it BETTER, FASTER, STRONGER. We are ready!!!!!!! Well at least when I get moved I am, LOL.
  4. Alaska_Phil's Avatar
    Holy S**T! I take a break for a week and all heck breaks loose. Marc, so sorry to hear of this tragity, but at least you're looking at it as an oportunity for improvements. I'll add another vote for the Marineland 300DD, that sounds like and awesome size.

    By the way, there's a 1,000 Gal Acrylic tank and stand for sale here in Fairbanks for $2500. It's on Craigs list. I talked to the seller, it's 15' x 4' x 2' (L x W x H). I'd have it but don't have anywhere to put it.
  5. Wes's Avatar
    im looking forward to see what finally happens with this and all jokes aside on the 460, a nice marineland would be a good upgrade. i have seen several of the 300 dd at lfs and club members homes and they are well made and look great. good luck with the decision and i hope things stay stable until you get something new delivered and ready. let me know what i can do for ya.
  6. melev's Avatar
    Few people would, Phil. That's really big - I guess for a guy wanting to watch a few sharks circling, it would be okay, but for us reef addicts - I dunno.

    Nightshade, once I know what size tank is going in, it will make it much easier to plan everything else. The tank dimensions have to be set in stone first.
  7. NightShade's Avatar
    Yeah gotta know the size first, that is true but set in stone. . . hmmmm. Maybe set in glass would be a better analogy, lol.
  8. Alaska_Phil's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by melev
    Few people would, Phil. That's really big - I guess for a guy wanting to watch a few sharks circling, it would be okay, but for us reef addicts - I dunno.
    I hear you. I figured it would cost me nearly $500/mo for electricity to run a reef that big here. But at that price I'd live with FOWLR....OK, maybe a few low light corals too. My preference would be hundreds of small fish rather than a couple huge ones though.
  9. melev's Avatar
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